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UPDATE: What Should Go Here? Old Long Branch Movie Theater

Building has been vacant for close to 20 years

 

 

The site of the old Long Branch movie theater on Ocean Avenue has been vacant for almost 20 years, and there have been no signs of anybody buying the property.

The theater, which is located near Lou's Uniforms and Ocean Cafe, was once one of the only of its kind in the area, and was in operation before AMC Loews Theater at Monmouth Mall opened.

There is an application for the June 11 Long Branch Zoning Board where a group will present plans to build a synagogue and Jewish Community Center on the site.

The entire blacktop area behind the theater and the neighboring buildings are considered part of the property and are part of the site plan. The blacktop area is currently used as a free parking area by residents who visit West End.

We want to know what you think should occupy the old movie theater building? Do you think the synagogue is a good idea? Get creative and make your voice heard.

Related Topics: Local Business, Long Branch, Old Long Branch Movie Theater, and downtown development
What should replace the old Long Branch movie theater on Ocean Avenue? Tell us in the comments.

DJGigs

11:03 am on Friday, June 1, 2012

This is not a rumor. Its going in front of the planing board.
If thsi is allowed in west end say good bye to West end as we know it

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John Mathias

11:43 am on Friday, June 1, 2012

how about........a movie theatre

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Dee Dale

6:41 pm on Saturday, June 2, 2012

I agree. Red Bank, Atlantic Highlands, Asbury Park, Deal and Bradley Beach all have movie theaters. Why not Long Branch?

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Patience

6:16 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012

I totally agree! How about another movie theatre??

Carol

12:08 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

Our very own movie theatre would be lovely. Just think of the business it would bring to the local shops & restaurant in the off months when they struggle to stay open.

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Sal Giacchi

12:44 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

Build a fly tower, and expand it's usefulness as a community theatre/movie theater. E.G. the Algonquin Theater in Manasquan. It provides children with experience in the performing arts, along with concerts, movies and community shows. Currently there is no facility in the Long Branch area for any of this.

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DJGigs

2:15 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

Everyone needs to go to the meeting to stop a religious site from going there

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John Mathias

2:50 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

What's the deal with your fear? Of course a theatre or arcade might be more fun but do you think a Synagogue would scare the rest of West End away? Is that worse than an abandoned building?

joe

2:45 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

How about a vintage pinball/video game arcade like the one in Asbury Park and Red Bank.

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Lynn Humphrey

3:10 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

Why not approach Mike & Nancy who own and operate The Showroom in AP They have done well and are moving to a bigger location in AP.
Maybe another one in LB, too

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Trina Colford

3:47 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

A community theatre/art gallery would be a lovely addition to the area where I summered as a child and teen. We need more culture in the area. No disrespect to persons of any faith. Trina Peduto Colford

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Concerned

4:32 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

West End is extremely congested as it is in the Summer - adding any house of worship in that area will be taxing for the traffic to say the least. I miss the old theatre and if something for our children, culturally, would be an great asset.

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DJGigs

4:38 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

John obviously has political motivations

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DJGigs

4:42 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

Reopen it . In Matawan they have an older place and they play all re-runs and its great

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Beth Woolley

4:59 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

After rejecting Rev. Browns application for a Mission/Church in the Broadway Arts District on the grounds that it would be a nonconforming use , I fail to understand how the City could say no to his application and yes to this one. It would also be a huge loss of property tax revenue if these properties were to become nonprofits...

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NInuzza

5:36 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

I completely agree but rationale is not a strong point in Long Branch. It would completely change the character ! The parking is an issue and the Banks will commence towing so their customers will be accommodated. The entire idea is flawed. Why is it ok for one religious group but not for another?

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Bob Basher

8:18 am on Saturday, June 2, 2012

good point ...if everyone really cared it would not have been abandoned 20 years...what is its condition? I always thought a theater you could have a long branch film festival each year...but i would rather see a synogog then nothing and i do not think it would change the character of area that much...the tax thing is a real concern especially now a days. I would totally be ok with a synogog then a mosque...now that changes the whole neighborhood like I went back to queens and I heard this Islamic chanting sounded like I was in Turkey all loud and thru neighborhood from loudspeakers calling to prayer it creeped me out and I wondered how is this allowed but I guess it is......This is a job for Mad Clam and Muscles the too toxic shells....my cartoon characters would solve this one!!!

NInuzza

5:21 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

I agree with Ed this use is inappropriate for the area. It would be best served by creating a venue which would draw people through a variety of uses. Why not consider revamping the movie theatre and creating a movie with dinner? A few years ago I experienced one in Another state. The lines were around the blocks and the food quite good.

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John Mathias

5:40 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

Don't get me wrong, I think a theatre would be sweet. Or an arcade, anything that has something to do with the beach or vacations would make sense, obviously. Maybe it's time for a 2 story parking lot.

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Katrine Rempel

6:17 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

Leave it a movie theater! If i want to see a movie I go to Bradley Beach for a quiet dinner & a movie, far from the mall. If that was in West end it would be lovely and help the small business owners as well. A religious building would ruin the area, it's not a proper place and well as a two story parking garage would be horrible.

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Ellie Vecchia

6:55 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

Leave it a movie theatre, but run indie and foreign films. It will be popular, but the crowds won't be too overwhelming for the area. Similar to the theatre on White Street in Red Bank. It's a perfect match for West End, and the area restaurants, bars and fast food outlets will certainly benefit.

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belmont

7:19 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

So do those that worry about parking problems a synagogue would cause, have another agenda???? FYI, an orthodox synagogue only has daily services needing parking one hour in the early morning and one hour around dusk (except on the Sabbath and Holidays when no parking is needed). Do you really object to loss of continued parking on private property or is there an anti-Semitic message I sence?

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Joseph Mahmah

10:48 pm on Friday, June 1, 2012

we need a place for young people to go and have a good time in long branch, there are enough things to do for the old farts no one cares about strange subtitled films and if they do they can go to red bank. there is nothing for teens and young adults to do except get in trouble, lets do something for the kids for once and no i don't care if you claim it will bring fights and crime the fights and crime are already there because they have no outlet. set up a bunch of x boxes and a concession stand charge by the hour and for food you will be surprised to see how many people will come to play games and not cause any problems. we (long branch) used to have a boardwalk for all ages but now its only if you have a pocket full of hundred dollar bills.

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Springteshya DeGeorge

8:34 am on Saturday, June 2, 2012

The old theater should be rebuilt as a new theater or an arcade or anything that will bring people, therefore customers, to West End. Especially after the recent fire, West End is dwindling and fighting to survive. Pier Village is LB's ONLY attraction right now. West End used to THRIVE! The restaurants + few businesses left NEED the influx of foot traffic and customers to keep them going. I don't think anyone would mind another synagogue in LB, but the old theater is NOT the right place for it. If the theater is replaced with a synagogue I greatly fear for West End's future.

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Sam Nativo

8:51 am on Saturday, June 2, 2012

Monday June 11th 7p.m. at City Hall! Be there and let your voice be heard! It's not just about saving the theater, it's about preserving the future and essence of a thriving buisness district and how this project will affect it.

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Richard s Lenoir

9:32 am on Saturday, June 2, 2012

The building should not be a house of temple or anything religious if the building is not gonna be a movie thearater it should be torn down and a nice basketball court or a tennis court would look nice next to the park bocci ball some to bennifit the people of long branch look what happend to the boardwalk common folk were kicked out for the bennifit of other people than native long branch the cycle is sick we need to either restore it to what it was or share the land what the city knows what's best the entire public

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Judy Riggenbach

11:23 am on Saturday, June 2, 2012

I think it should become a movie theater once more. Much like the one in Red Bank that shows smaller films, and art films as well as normal movies. IT would be an important attraction. We already have an enormous amount of synagogs in the area. another is NOT needed.

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Blind Boy Grunt

12:12 pm on Saturday, June 2, 2012

a religious building of any kind would change the complexion of the West End. The West End is an organically grown social and entertainment area in LB. The reinstating of a movie house would bring more people to the area and give it a morale boost after the fire. Art and entertainment sometimes takes a risk. Art should not be encumbered. How long before we hear this business, that art gallery, this bar, that rock band at the Brighton "is not appropriate near our house of worship".

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Thomas A. Blasi

12:30 pm on Saturday, June 2, 2012

I am an agnostic; as such my opinion in this matter is secular and not ecclesiastical. Residents, regardless religious denomination should Keep in mind the fact that if the building is converted into a synagogue or any other house of worship, it will not pay tax and, at a time when communities badly need revenue, this plan will not bring in one penny of tax.
The majority of posters to this column feel the property should be a movie theater of some sort, I am inclined to agree. I’m thinking of perhaps an independent film type of theater, a type that might attract the avant-garde, more sophisticated individual, this would in fact ameliorate the area and keep away the downtrodden and the riffraff that tend to gravitate to some of the other theaters when films of little or no substance are shown. I believe that there are many films of artistic quality that adults would enjoy seeing. If implemented the idea would also be a boom for the restaurants and pubs in the area as these individuals might be inclined to frequent an eatery or pub after the show.

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belmont

1:43 pm on Saturday, June 2, 2012

Hmmm, I guess if the site were so successful as a movie theatre it would never have closed. In fact it was loosing so much money the previous owners shut it down while it was on the sales market. I see alot of talkers here, all with shallow pockets. The property has not changed hands, contingent on approvals. Just put up some money, instead of talk, and buy a shell of a theatre and provide free parking to all your freeloading neighborhood property owners. BTW, from what I understand, this theatre was loosing money even when the film Jaws was showing and there were lines around the block all summerlong.

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Blind Boy Grunt

3:44 pm on Saturday, June 2, 2012

There is no debating sarcasm and cynicism. For the sake of art and an improved local business environment that benefits all including belmont, show up at the hearing on June 11th. BBG

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Laurie

5:41 pm on Saturday, June 2, 2012

A movie theatre would be the best use in my mind. It is a good place for all families on the community.

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Anna Garifine

10:11 pm on Saturday, June 2, 2012

I always thought it would be a great spot for fine, performing and practical arts center. To rebuild the movie theater would be great too. Perhaps someone could add a second story and incorporate all. Long branch needs that.

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Irene fornicola

8:19 am on Sunday, June 3, 2012

This movie theater is an icon, why would you want to destroy it, I loved bringing my kids to this theater, It should be renovated and used for movies and plays by the newest generation, It will put revenuenback into that area, If something isn't broken then why fix it, leave it as it should be and just give it some love and care to bring it back to life,

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Irene fornicola

8:24 am on Sunday, June 3, 2012

If it were done right it could also be used for dance recitals and art shows, put some culture back into this town,

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belmont

11:57 am on Sunday, June 3, 2012

If it isn't broken, why fix it???????? @IF, in case you haven't noticed, it's been broken for 20 years. @AG, FYI this is already a 2 level building with separate theatres on each floor. I contine to hear alot of talkers, but no buyers. Simply put up the money and promote "culture". If there was a chance of profit in it, the bidders would be fighting for this building. As it stands now, it is an eyesore, boarded up for 20 years.

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Ericovik

1:35 pm on Sunday, June 3, 2012

I remember when i was a kid and saw there "Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles" the Movie! then went to get ice cream, play in the small park that was there, then the beach, what great memories, so let me ask you all this! why take away a chance for our younger generation of such simple clean fun opportunities? BUILD A NEW! Movie Theater (slash community theater) it can play old moveis (black and white movies, to the entire Rocky Trilogy) and also new movies and sports events also, High Definition Projectors aren't as expensive as it was years ago, and you can plug any kinds of Video Feeds.

It would definitely bring more traffic to all the stores around that area, plus it would be great to have an option if you don't want to pay over $11 to see a movie.

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Thomas A. Blasi

4:43 pm on Sunday, June 3, 2012

I am not a business man but I know enough about economics and market based capitalism and these times to know that no business enterprise is going to invest if there is not a profit to be made & no one works for free. The times are unfortunately not like they once were. Movie theaters have priced themselves out of business because of $11.00 ticket prices so now we sit home in front of our big color flat screen TVs with 160 channels. BUT, somehow it’s not the same, no shared experience like in the movies. Notice over the years the number of movie theaters that have been closed, and the number of Gas stations too

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belmont

7:23 pm on Sunday, June 3, 2012

@TB, you are absolutely correct about gas stations and movie theatres. They sit on primecommercial real estate and most cannot generate the cash flow to support the overhead. The theatre properties are currently acessed in excess of 2 million dollars. Those wanting to promote any type of theatre should project a profit and loss statement. I doubt any can be viable. Just look at any of the mall theatres. They are busy 3-4 hours a day during the week and maybe 4-5 hours on weekends. They hope to cover the payroll by attracting seniors to matinees.

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Thomas A. Blasi

7:50 pm on Sunday, June 3, 2012

Whenever we frequent the Monmouth Mall theaters which isn’t that often, we are sometimes seated in one of the movie theaters with only about 6-8 other moviegoers in the entire theater! The movie on White Street, Red Bank seems to do better due to the unique films they show.

I don’t know what the answer is! Should the government subsidize this business or let it die a natural death as more residents ‘cocoon’ in their homes in front of the ever growing flat screen TVs. Some of t he more affluent residents in fact, now build mini theaters in their homes!

Perhaps another use to save that theater would be to use it for local rock bands! There’s a stage in the theater and seats, have local area bands play there and charge an affordable admission fee. I’m thinking it could be filled every night especially in the winter. This will make a profit believe me.

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Auntdidi64

8:03 am on Monday, June 4, 2012

I think this would be a great space to be a information connection where people can learn all about the history to the present Long Branch that we take pride in. Having old and new pictures and films all about our Long Branch pride! We could get sponsors like local businesses who would benefit from visitors and locals alike.

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belmont

7:17 pm on Tuesday, June 5, 2012

Maybe you should visit the LB Historical museum in the church building on Ocean Ave. They certainly could use even your support and can certainly provide you with an education concerning the many years of hard work they have performed to preserve LB's history.

DJGigs

9:01 am on Monday, June 4, 2012

Bottom line is we need as many people as we can to go to the meeting on June 11th

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Blind Boy Grunt

1:58 pm on Monday, June 4, 2012

Mr Thomas , thanks for the clarity regarding the basic issue that the public CAN influence. Voice your concern on 11 th of Jun. BBG

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Warren P

6:40 pm on Wednesday, June 6, 2012

Many people on this thread have many different opinions concerning this piece of property. My simple question is---If there was a viable business entity that would be able to support itself year round at this location, then why hasn't any business person taken advantage of it? This property is in shambles and has been an eyesore for over 20 years and a modern house of worship would add dignity and beautify the area.

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DJGigs

8:43 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

West End supporter, Your name is a wolf in sheep's clothing.
The parking lots behind the theater is owned by the same people. It goes straight back to the road. It will no longer be allowed to be used by US people that use it to park in west end to support the Businesses. Regardless of what you want to call it. A religious Venue is not the type of activity that area needs If that is allowed to go there next will no more large events in west end because it will disturb the regularly events that take place at the Chabad /synagogue . Lets face it ,West End will be dead if this is allowed to go forward. . So Mr West end Supporter.Most people know Who I am . How about you stop hiding behind your name.

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debbie dubin

10:22 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

who are you DJGigs, that you would oppose beautifying an area that has been an eyesore for so long? Those who would suggest a movie theatre should know that that could never happen. Have you seen the plans for the proposed building? I would be thrilled to have it adorn my neighborhood.

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DJGigs

10:55 am on Thursday, June 7, 2012

I love it I will see you at the meeting along with the owners,
But At least we know its being viewed by the other side

GOOD

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Westender

4:58 pm on Thursday, June 7, 2012

These comments are confusing at best. Long Branch does not own the building so the city has no power to demand that a movie threatre operate on this site. I also agree that a house of worship isn't the best use for this location, but this is actually the first proposal to use this building that has been brought before the public in 20 years.

If the people want a movie threatre on this site they have two options:

1) Gather together the money necessary to purchase the building from its current owner and then open a movie theatre.

2) Petition the Mayor and Council of the City of Long Branch to exericse Eminment Domain over the property and take it from the current owner. Then the City would own the property and they could run a community threatre there.

The only problem with option # 2 is that Eminment Domain isn't exactly too popular in Long Branch. However since I really don't see option # 1 happening, I think option # 2 is the only realstic way in which a threatre will ever be run on that site again.

Something to think about.

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DJGigs

8:18 am on Friday, June 8, 2012

West End supporter , WOW all I can say Is wow
I bet you are the owner !!!!!

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DJGigs

9:11 am on Friday, June 8, 2012

So let me ask you a question? what happens when they take away the park?
what happens when they invoke religious law over the area. and they stop most of your BANDS in the park for disturbing there Religious events. What happens when certain things are being done right next to this house of worship that goes against there laws. Do me a favor and do some research first before you get all uppidty about money being invested. Its a take over not a assimilation as you are trying to make it out to be. You must be very young. I go back to 1970s in lb my family goes back to the 1800's in LB. We remember what Cioffi had to do on second avenue with the facility that use to be there. Im sure you remember right???

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belmont

7:03 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

I guess you forget the 60's (or were too stoned to notice) when the city passed an ordinance requiring all adults in the park to be accompanied by a child to combat the blatant pot smoking in the park. This excluded the hippie generation from the park. Obviously you have a misunderstanding of the Chabad movement. They are not ultra-orthodox, in fact they are inclusive of all forms of Jewish observancy. Where you get the idea they will try to control the park is without merit and is fear mongering.

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belmont

7:05 pm on Friday, June 8, 2012

What are you talking about concerning the second ave facility?

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belmont

9:49 am on Saturday, June 9, 2012

BTW, who are you a decendant of? Alma Smith or Arthur Bell, two of Long Branch's esteemed residents.

DJGigs

8:23 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

You are right . What was I thinking? All Pot was smoked in that park and no where else So I was told and everyone on the north side of town are all Smith Descendants and the south side all Bell. And all those street signs being named after famous people came here to smoke the pot with the hippies. Hey Belmont . YOU CALLED IT A MOVEMENT .NO ONE ELSE IN HERE SAID THAT . I A GLAD IT FINALLY HAS COME OUT. its a Movement (TAKEOVER ) not a assimilation. I guess you are the 1 percent

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DJGigs

3:10 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

BELMONT.. The the city passed an ordinance requiring all adults in the park to be accompanied by a child ? I think you are the stoned one. You sure its not all children be accompanied by an Adult?

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belmont

7:42 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

Again you display you ignorance of LB history. In the time period around 1969-1970 an ordinance was passed to limit adults in park to only those accompanied by children. This was after many months of "hippys" occupying the park. The ordinance was repealed many years later when it was realized bocce players were in violation of the forgotten ordinance.

DJGigs

8:35 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

And Belmont. My family in this town goes back to 1910 .. HMMMM Interesting ha?

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belmont

7:52 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

Another Johnny-come-lately. Strange how you are the offspring of a Long Brancher. Rare to find someone from Long Branch as devisive and biggoted as you. To this day LB is a great melting pot, "The Friendly City". What happened to you? Someone had it in for your father?

West End Resident

10:12 am on Monday, June 11, 2012

The bottom line is the current building is and has been vacant for 20 + years. Its a libaility hazard and eye sore as are the parking lots. I welcome any redevelopment of the property and while many of the posters have suggested a movie theater, it seems that we have one, a vancant delapadated one that currently and for the last 20 years has done nothing but bring down property values and scare away potential new business owners from opening new businesses. From what I have read the parking is not city parking and is being used ilegally and without consent of its owners. I would suggest those local business owners that are concerned with parking to pool their recources and contact the current owners and offer to pay them a monthly fee for the parkign they and their customers have been ilegally tresspassing on! People this is crazy... What we have currently is a 20 year vacant building, parking that is not safely maintained and is being used ilegally. What This Chabad is bringing to the table is a new building, paved, lit, curbed and landscaped parking and a place or worship, which I think the Long Branch community would welcome not oppose.

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DJGigs

12:59 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

HELLo West End Resident. Lets analyze these statements.
Building is and has been vacant for 20 + years? Hmm How long has the Current owner been in possession of this building ? 20 yrs?
I welcome any redevelopment of the property ? Pretty confident post .ARE YOU ONE OF THE OWNERS

t seems that we have one, a vancant delapadated one that currently and for the last 20 years has done nothing but bring down property values and scare away potential new business owners

If this goes up say good by to any new owners that have thought of even moving in there. Plus the new building will not just consume the theater it will be the entire block up to Tre Amici.

I would suggest those local business owners that are concerned with parking to pool their recources and contact the current owners and offer to pay them a monthly fee for the parkign they and their customers have been ilegally tresspassing on! AGAIN YOU SEEM TO BE IMPLYING YOU ARE THE OWNER. PLUS THIS GOES AGAINST WHAT PEOPLE HAVE BEEN TOLD WHO OWN A BUIS IN WEST END

What we have currently is a 20 year vacant building, parking that is not safely maintained and is being used ilegally. What This Chabad is bringing to the table is a new building, paved, lit, curbed and landscaped parking and a place or worship, which I think the Long Branch community would welcome not oppose.

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DJGigs

12:59 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

THE OWNER IS RESPONSIBLE TO KEEP HIS AREA SAFE REGARDLESS OF WHAT IS THERE. SO WHAT YOU ARE TELLING US IS ITS A CHABAD OR NOTHING AT ALL? bs>>>>

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West End Resident

4:04 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

I'm am not the owner and I'm not telling you anything DJ Gigs. All I am saying is no one including the people on this post have tried to do anything with this property for 20 years. The vacant and run down building is an eye sore ( that can't be disputed). The parking lots are not owned by the Town Of Long Branch and are in poor repair ( that can't be disputed). There is finally after all this time someone willing to invest money into beautifying this property and yet you are speaking out against this improvement to West End. I for one strongly prefer to look at a beautiful new building, than a vacant one. In response to your comment that I was trying to say its Chabad or nothing, that's simply not true. I am saying that it has taken 20 years for someone to show an interest in the property and the community of West End should embrace The proposed improvement! Of course we can take your approach, which is to sit and stare at a vacant building for another 20 years and say to ourselves we really just want the movie theater.... Guess what, unless your prepared to buy the property and build a movie theater... One isn't coming! Furthermore if you or anyone else did by the property and build a new theater, I'm sure you / they would put up signs stating that the parking is for movie theater patrons only... So that wouldn't solve the so called parking issues for our firends and business owners on Brighton Avenue!

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West End Resident

4:15 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

DJ Gigs it is clear that you prefer the property remains vacant, the question is why? You say the owner of the lots should repair and maintain them, but yet you don't object to the business owners of West End using them for their customers parking. Now that doesn't sound like a fair situation. I'm not sure what your underlying motives are, but you clearly support the following: free use of privately owned parking in which the parking lot owner should maintian it, not the businesses benefiting from it. A vacant building vs a beautiful new one and just more of the same. I on the other hand am for progress and repair to the town I live in!

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DJGigs

4:26 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

http://www.chabadshore.com/

LOOK AT THE 4TH STREAMING PHOTO.. IT'S TODD AND LARRY KATZ!!

So know we know who is behind this

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DJGigs

4:27 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

beautiful new one tax free, exempt with all its religious might to kick anyone out of teh area in the name of religion

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DJGigs

4:28 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

So its like a vacant lot then because its tax excempt ...

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DJGigs

4:49 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

You have to be a resident of Long Branch . And no I am not anti Semtic I am just smart .
And I think there about 20 Giglio's from LB you simple minded individual

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DJGigs

4:51 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

You behind behind names . NOT ME

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DJGigs

4:52 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

And lets get this out I am against any RELIGIOUS venues in west end.

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DJGigs

4:59 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

And if you want to bring that BS up we can start with workers for each town versus where they live ...

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DJGigs

5:12 pm on Monday, June 11, 2012

you can bye but say bye tonight

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DJGigs

8:50 am on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

Well Lets see I was at the meeting. At first is was your standard boring meeting. But then it got good. The Rabbi seem to have been breaking the law for almost 5 years now. Using 620 Ocean avenue as his place of worship. To make matters even more convoluted he says he currently has 1000 Sq feet. and has about 45 -60 people now. But claims he wants to go to 200 + 75 for teaching (students and teachers) But when the Obvious question came out . why do you need to build a 20,000 Sq ft building he said he wants to get max 200 people . Everyone in the audience laughed. Hmm lets see 60 people 1000 sq ft 20,0000 sq feet x60 . well you figure it out. Then he down played everything .. he had already inserted his foot in his mouth with his blatant disregard for the law when one board member openly stated he is having problems even talking about this. A little about parking. It will consume the entire back end . Brighton court will no longer be a drive through to west end court as it is now. There will obviously be a chain or a gate (even though he says no) But lets not kid yourself. Once its granted they can do what they want and the city because of it being private property plus religious use will have no say . At the end of the meeting you could obviously see who was behind the whole thing . Some snakes had slithered in at the tail end of the meeting. Some good quotes. They will be dropped off, Wait they will walk . . How about Ocean avenue? Wait how about building one in broadway

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DJGigs

9:02 am on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

A little more info the lot in the back has a small parcel of land . its about 8 x12 , The lawyer and engineer showed this as part of city owned property. How funny in order to get to it you would have to drive through the private property

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DJGigs

9:30 am on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

plus Long Branch would lose a 60.000 k tax revenue

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West End Resident

10:11 am on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

I was also at the meeting and you are seriously distorting the facts. The School only operates on Sunday, so taking the 30-60 kids that attend the school and addding them to the high holiday max of 200 is clearly a manipulation of facts! The facts are the chabad presented a beautiful project that adds to the look of ocean avenue and adds lighting and safety to the dark and broken up parking lots.

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DJGigs

12:20 pm on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

You are wrong my friend . Twist all you want . The entire crowd laughed. The fact he is breaking the law now. 1000 Sq f ,, so now 20 K is needed. And not once did he commit on exact figures. Face it there are none " GOD WILLING was his eact words that he can get to 200 . well lets see why do you need such a large facility . Why do you need so may Parking spaces. When the board asked about teh removable wall he shut up. When the board asked about ocean ave he shut up.. And Since I was there all you can talk about is the kids .. Please do me favor don't even talk to me as you told me yesterday AS IF YOU KNOW ME PERSONALLY There is no sense in talking to someone like ME HA .. Well I guess you think there is now.. Bottom LINE LIES got shown last night and if a lie is happening now . Why wouldn't it happen again ..BUSTED

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DJGigs

12:30 pm on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

I loved the part where they showed the grayed out parking lot and the little space that is actually owned by the city.. BUT once Brighton court is closed off you will no longer be able to get to it. Ohh and that brings up a good point.. IS PARKING GOING TO BE ALLOWED . es by the Rabbi ,No by the Lawyer.. So which is it . Bottom line once its turned over as a religious venue everyone will be shut out . And lets not even get into Ocean avenue. you might as well shut it down .. If someone get shit or WORSE killed by a car ..It will be the city's fault RIGHT? Wait and maybe a couple of weddings (YEA RIGHT more like a couple hundred Non profit my a$$$ and 60 Gs taken from the city in tax revenu

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West End Resident

1:06 pm on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

I was at the meeting yesterday and frankly was impressed by the chabad programs and what they want to do for the community of Long Branch. I have a family member with special needs and the idea of a big brother program where volunteers visit the homes of special need children is amazing. In a society where most are out for themselves it is a breath of fresh air to see community programs being offered at no charge. I did some research and chabad is not charging for these community driven services. West end needs to support an organization that supports the long branch community and only asks for a variance in return! I can tell you our family spends in excess of $100,000 a year on physical therapy, speech therapy, special schooling etc for our special needs child! Here free programs are being offered and you and others in West end are speaking against it? Surely you And anyone opposing this should be completly ashamed!

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DJGigs

1:34 pm on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

So we need a religious org to get things done for special needs now? What about all that Hope and Change Dumbo Jumbo initiated . you know the new Health care bill?. I am sad that you have to go through all that but
100,000 a year on Therapy? WOW what health care provider do you have? I would be very interested . Sounds like its PROFESSIONAL SERVICE YOU ARE GETTING

I WONDER IF THE VOLUNTEERS ARE CERTIFIED THERPISTS
UNLESS ...............WELL HMM I DON'T THINK ITS THAT KIND OF SERVICE ,, GOOD POINT TO BRING UP ON THE 10TH THANK YOU .

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DJGigs

1:52 pm on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

But yet I was there last night . Fear monger? No I just have the guts to speak my my mind. you on the other hand HIDE behind names and religion. Sorry.
I firmly believe all religious Venues/churches/synagogues/Moscues should not be tax free.

BTW typing from a main frame and not a web browser is tough .
But you wouldn't understand that since you do not do that stuff

V.I anyone

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West End Resident

2:03 pm on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

Mr gigs yes that's what it cost for families with autistic children or other special needs. They need special schooling, special busses to transport them and in addition to what these schools cost to operate, the kids still need additional therapies from outside vendors. I have great medical insurance, but medical insurance doesn't pay for the schooling. They provide for some of the therapies but not all.... Bottom line is any organization willing to help those who need it, whether for special needs kids, or in other ways should be support by the community, as that is what COMMUNITY is all about!

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DJGigs

3:03 pm on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

Well I feel extremely bad for you . I never had any idea on the money , That is where we should all get together and go after the insurance companies. There is no reason why ,with the amount of money we pay for Insurance,taxes and everything else you should be burdened with not getting all the help you need for your child. I would be all for putting in a center there to help out children with disabilities. Now that is something I bet everyone would get behind.. Not a secular religious venue. West end would do great with a Non for profit Center such as that . One that helps out Autistic, MS and Cancer. I love the Ronald McDonald house. It could be something like that only a lot bigger . Maybe even a YMCA ...

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belmont

7:12 pm on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

So the truth appears, a YMCA is OK. But a Jewish Community Center is taboo? What does the "C" in YMCA stand for? I guess you would prefer a drug treatment center? Maybe a marijuana dispensing agency?

West End Resident

4:00 pm on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

There is an old saying... dont look a gift horse in the mouth. We have an organization willing to invest money to west end and who amongst many other services offers a hand to those who have children with special needs. We should support them based on this alone. They also offer many other programs that while may not benift you direclty ie you dont have a special needs child and based on previous postings, I dont believe you are Jewish, so you may not personally or directly benift from Chabad's religious education and other programs the west end community as a whole benifits froma deverse offering of business and religious institutions. I for one dont go to the bars on Brighton ave... but I am happy that they are there and that they serve members of Long Branch even if they dont serve me directly!

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DJGigs

4:37 pm on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

Sorry I cannot get behind a religious Org in West end And believe me I may be the only one talking but There are lots who feel like I do

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DJGigs

10:36 pm on Tuesday, June 12, 2012

I think what is interesting is the following. The building i snot run down . The owners obviously have let it go so that way this can happen. If you look at how the situation has unfolded its obvious this was done on purpose. Also does rabbinical law supersede City laws? State Laws I find it interesting how many have dual citizenship based on there religion,And I have been told that the laws can supersede our local govt laws. So if he says one thing now and breaks those promises after (IF its approved he can get out of it. Also we aren't talking about one building now are we . The present owner owns all the entire property of Ocean avenue to west end court. Then down west end court to the edge of the chiropractor building . So Eventually this would be one huge waste of property , slowly being consumed for the sole purpose of one type of religion. Face it .Unless you belong you are not welcome. As he stated last night You will just about get a cup of coffee.

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Spacegirlz

11:23 am on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

insults don't go far..facts do.

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DJGigs

8:10 pm on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

LMAo West END Jock strap ,, You have great internet muscles. And are very good at insults. You belong in stand up comedy .I swear. What funny is if you ever met me face to face you would cower back into your hole that you came from ..You simply do not have what it takes to stand up for yourself. Please log on using your real name I BEG YOU.............KLEENEX AISLE 5

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DJGigs

8:12 pm on Wednesday, June 13, 2012

I meant to say West End Supporter,But the more I look at it I think of a Jock strap

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BML18

10:11 am on Thursday, June 14, 2012

BML18
You keep asking for West End Supporter to log in with the real name but you don't.
Why won't you let us know who you are?

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DJGigs

12:26 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012

Hey I am using my name.
You obviously are not as local as you claim to be

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DJGigs

11:00 pm on Friday, June 15, 2012

Agreed, You are dismissed, but for give me 50

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gizmo

10:25 pm on Tuesday, September 4, 2012

Bad idea for religious bldg!! Why can't you stay at 620 ocean? Still operating illegally out of there in west end?? Aren't 5 synagogues enough in long branch?? We need something we can collect taxes, n we also want to keep our park n Parking.. You will never b able to let public use it like you say as you would b operating there basically 7 days a week, not to mention nights... Please consider the community and realize we don't want to lose the park, bands, art shows, m parking..

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DJGigs

8:54 am on Friday, September 7, 2012

ALERT ALERT THIS IS GOING TO BE HEARD AT NEXT WEEKS ZONING BOARD MEETING .GET EVERYONE UP TO SPEED AND BE AT THIS MEETING
Hello Everyone. It seems long branch or someone in Long Branch is trying to allow a fast one to get pulled here

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West End Supporter

3:16 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012

Better be careful there Bobby of what you are strongly implying. May be grounds for libel.

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West End Supporter

3:19 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012

It's really sad how sick and paranoid all of you racist, bigoted people are.

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DJGigs

4:11 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012

Libel. tell you what West End Jock strap , You claim that and we wil ask for an admitted buisiness running illegally to be shut down. And that is fact not Libel

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DJGigs

4:52 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012

Hilarious , these guys lie and bullsh!t everyone.. Is that the way a religion is supopose to be? I think not . but it was in the paper. The buisiness was operating illegally . and they admitte dit and said now we want to do it right.. ohh really after 3 plus years. no one seen it closed or shut down after it was admittly operating illegally.. I guess its kinda like that health care bill that was passed. its not a tax ohh wait it is

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West End Resident

5:10 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012

Just a FYI the temple is not a business, it's a house of G-d and should be respected as such by all, Dispite your religious affiliation... Shabbat Shalom and a beautiful weekend to all!

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West End Supporter

5:35 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012

Mr. Giglio: You are a very, sick, angry person. I really feel sorry for you, especially since you are not able to spell or punctuate a sentence correctly. Maybe you should take the time to get a GED rather than trying to blog with otherwise intelligent people.

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DJGigs

8:38 pm on Friday, September 7, 2012

Hello West End Supporter. Now that I am on a windows PC and can use spell check I am wondering if instead of making an assumption about me . If you can honestly answer any of the questions posted here on this blog THAT you DO NOT OWN !!!

1) If it was Illegal back then (3 years ago) is it Illegal Now?
2) Do you feel Belittling people and not answering or defending the situation is on par with your suberb level of being SO FAR above everyone else
And assuming you actually now who I am ( Where is your proof on this Alias)

3) I loved the support this past summer . NOT ONE name for Chabad by the Shore was on Any sponsers of ANY of the events that happened this past Summer Season . We seen ST Barnabus, We seen The Mix, We Saw Chevy , DCH Honda .. But No mention of any one of that Group , The same group that claims they want to be part of the west end culture.

4) If you are going to actually belittle someones spelling on this blog and tell them to get a GED be prepared to be able to math there Brain . I will bet you couldnt keep up with any of us on this Blog , Math Wise, Computer wise or Even Wit Wise .

Have a great day and Kleenex is in Aisle 5 :)))

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DJGigs

9:26 am on Sunday, September 9, 2012

Update... The link shows a change in the proposal. Parking to be more liberal and retail space so that way the city loses no rate-ables .

1) Unless there is a signature of intent ,just taking these guys word is like a hand shake from Al Capone

2) Once its a religious venue , Anything they want to do cannot be stopped , Simply because it will in the name of religion . And you know that's basically a free ticket to do what ever you want to do

3) I love how people on this board use there religion against those that are against this claiming we are bigoted or racist. When It seems those pushing for this are using religion and race against us . TALK ABOUT reverse RACISM

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